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Disasters · Josephine offshore

Josephine moves away, but the coastal danger is not over

Josephine’s post-tropical turn and offshore track did not end coastal flooding or dangerous swells. Whether it reached forecast hurricane-force winds remains unverified.

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  1. Update 1Josephine moves away, but the coastal danger is not overYou are here

What does it mean for the coast when a storm moves away, loses its tropical classification—and is still forecast to strengthen? For Josephine, it means the offshore track is not an all-clear. Flooding was already affecting parts of the U.S. Mid-Atlantic on Thursday, October 22, while large swells reached much of the eastern seaboard and parts of Atlantic Canada. The National Hurricane Center warned that life-threatening surf and rip currents were likely. 1

By early Friday, October 23, one important part of the forecast remained unverified: whether Josephine had developed hurricane-force sustained winds. Its latest verified hurricane-center analysis still put those winds near 65 mph. The storm had become post-tropical, described as a powerful extratropical low, but the stronger winds were an expectation—not an established measurement. 1 29

That distinction matters without diminishing the coastal danger. Josephine did not need to reach its forecast peak offshore to cause trouble onshore. The hurricane center reported minor to locally moderate coastal flooding along portions of the Mid-Atlantic, and its earlier advisory expected flooding around high tide to continue through the rest of the week. 1 2

The coast was already feeling it

Hatteras Island, North Carolina, provides a specific place within that broad warning. The National Weather Service office in Morehead City/Newport reported coastal flooding there and high seas. The Raleigh News & Observer also reported disruption to travel along the Outer Banks. Those accounts establish impacts, but not a particular road closure, its duration or the depth of floodwater. 21 25

The available reports do not establish a quantified damage total, a rescue count or an injury toll. Nor do they supply location-specific, quantified impacts in Atlantic Canada. That is a limit on what can be reported, not evidence that the affected coast escaped harm. 21 25 26

The reach of the swells was broader than the immediate area of Josephine’s strongest winds. The hurricane center said large swells were affecting much of the U.S. eastern seaboard and portions of Atlantic Canada. Its forecast also allowed for gale-force gusts along parts of the northeastern U.S. coast through Thursday evening. That window has passed; it should not be read as either confirmation that those gusts occurred or a fresh forecast for Friday morning. 1

There was an apparently reassuring line in the final hurricane-center advisory: no coastal watches or warnings were in effect. But the same advisory described ongoing flooding and dangerous swells. Its warning status therefore cannot reasonably be read as permission to dismiss the hazards. It also does not establish which separate local coastal-flood, high-surf or rip-current alerts remained active early Friday; their exact zones and expiration times have not been verified. 1 21

What changed in six hours

The clearest way to understand Josephine’s change is to keep the analysis times attached to the numbers. Thursday’s two hurricane-center reports describe a system moving faster and changing classification—not a measured jump in its public sustained-wind estimate. A later Canadian marine analysis advanced the location picture but did not settle the wind question.

Josephine’s verified offshore progression

  1. October 22, 11 a.m. AST

    Josephine was subtropical, about 200 miles southeast of Nantucket, moving northeast at 12 mph. Sustained winds were near 65 mph; estimated pressure was 988 millibars.

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  2. October 22, 5 p.m. AST

    Josephine was post-tropical, about 235 miles east-southeast of Nantucket, moving northeast at 17 mph. Sustained winds remained near 65 mph and estimated pressure remained 988 millibars.

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  3. October 22, 2300 UTC

    Environment Canada placed the system over southern Georges Bank at 988 millibars, without a numerical center position or sustained-wind estimate in the available account.

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At the final hurricane-center analysis, Josephine’s center was at 40.0 degrees north, 65.8 degrees west, also about 335 miles south-southwest of Halifax, Nova Scotia. Those distances belong to 5 p.m. Atlantic Standard Time on Thursday—2100 UTC—not to the time a webpage was subsequently updated. A page update early Friday did not make Thursday’s position a new observation. 1 29

The earlier technical advisory expressed sustained winds as 55 knots, with gusts to 65 knots. Its public counterpart gave sustained winds of 65 mph. These are corresponding, unit-rounded presentations, not rival intensity estimates. In particular, the 65-knot gust figure must not be mistaken for the 65-mph sustained-wind figure. 3 17

The earlier forecast had placed the post-tropical transition at 0000 UTC October 23. The later advisory establishes that it had happened by 2100 UTC October 22, three hours before that forecast point. It does not establish the precise moment of transition between the two analyses. 3 1

The stronger winds remain a forecast

The hurricane center expected Josephine to strengthen through Thursday night into a powerful extratropical cyclone with hurricane-force winds that night or early Friday. The forecast track took it away from the United States, remaining south of Nova Scotia and Newfoundland. Neither the change in classification nor the offshore direction contradicted that strengthening forecast. 1

But the later Environment Canada synopsis did not provide a sustained-wind estimate. It therefore cannot verify that hurricane-force winds developed. The latest verified sustained-wind estimate available for this account remains the hurricane center’s 65 mph at 2100 UTC Thursday. 30 29

The next named offshore forecast point was the Laurentian Fan: Environment Canada projected Josephine there at 988 millibars by 8 p.m. Atlantic Daylight Time Friday, equivalent to 2300 UTC. The earlier hurricane-center outlook called for gradual weakening after strengthening, with dissipation by 1200 UTC October 26. Both are forecasts still to be tested, not completed stages of the storm’s history. 30 3

The final public advisory ended one agency’s series of public bulletins on Josephine. It did not announce that the cyclone had dissipated, and it did not erase the flooding and swells described in that very bulletin. For coastal communities, that is the consequential answer: the center was moving away, but the immediate stakes remained high water around high tide and dangerous surf far from the center. 1 2

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  1. Josephine has flooded parts of the Mid-Atlantic coast while moving farther offshore. Large swells reach much of the eastern U.S. coastline and parts of Atlantic Canada, with life-threatening surf and rip currents likely. Whether the cyclone reached its forecast hurricane-force winds is still unclear.
  2. Josephine's center was about 235 miles east-southeast of Nantucket at five p.m. Atlantic Standard Time on Thursday, October 22. It was also about 335 miles south-southwest of Halifax. Those distances describe Thursday evening's position as the storm headed northeast.
  3. The cyclone was moving at 17 miles an hour, with an estimated central pressure of 988 millibars. Josephine had become post-tropical, described as a powerful extratropical low. Its new classification came alongside a forecast for further strengthening overnight.
  4. Josephine's sustained winds were near 65 miles an hour, with higher gusts, in that Thursday evening analysis. The forecast called for hurricane-force winds Thursday night or early Friday. As of early Friday, 65 miles an hour remains the latest sustained-wind estimate.
  5. The expected track carried Josephine away from the United States, remaining south of Nova Scotia and Newfoundland. But an offshore track still leaves beaches exposed to the storm's swells. Gale-force gusts were also possible along parts of the northeastern U.S. coast through Thursday evening. That forecast covered the evening that has now passed.
  6. Hatteras Island had coastal flooding and high seas. Travel disruption was also reported along the Outer Banks. Those impacts put a specific place on the broader Mid-Atlantic flooding, which ranged from minor to locally moderate along affected sections of the coast.
  7. The earlier forecast expected coastal flooding to continue around high tide through the rest of the week. Large swells were already affecting much of the eastern seaboard and parts of Atlantic Canada. The dangerous surf and rip-current forecast extended the coastal threat well beyond the area of the cyclone's strongest winds.
  8. The final public advisory listed no coastal watches or warnings, while also describing ongoing flooding and dangerous swells. Its warning status didn't give beaches an all-clear. The hurricane center ended its public advisories on Josephine that evening, with the cyclone still active offshore and coastal hazards continuing.
  9. Josephine was still subtropical at the earlier Thursday analysis, moving northeast at 12 miles an hour. Six hours later, it was post-tropical and moving at 17 miles an hour. Its public sustained-wind estimate stayed near 65 miles an hour, and pressure stayed at 988 millibars.
  10. The earlier center was about 200 miles southeast of Nantucket, with its position estimated accurate within 30 nautical miles. The earlier forecast had placed the post-tropical transition at midnight UTC. Josephine had already changed classification by nine p.m. UTC, three hours before that forecast point.
  11. The earlier technical analysis gave sustained winds of 55 knots and gusts to 65 knots. Its midnight forecast projected 65 knots sustained, with gusts to 80 knots. The stronger figures describe what forecasters expected Josephine to produce later.
  12. The public 65-mile-an-hour sustained wind is the rounded presentation of that 55-knot estimate. The separate 65-knot figure describes gusts. Keeping the units and the type of wind together prevents a gust measurement from being mistaken for a stronger sustained-wind estimate.
  13. A later marine analysis placed Josephine over southern Georges Bank at 988 millibars, two hours after the final hurricane-center analysis. That moved the offshore picture forward, but the latest sustained-wind estimate still comes from the earlier analysis. The next Canadian offshore forecast point was the Laurentian Fan on Friday evening.
  14. The earlier outlook listed average track errors of 125 nautical miles near day four and 175 nautical miles near day five. Average intensity error was 15 knots each day. Those averages leave room for larger errors in the eventual track or strength.
  15. That longer-range outlook called for gradual weakening after the forecast strengthening. Two forecast points give the offshore storm's expected next steps, while high-tide flooding and dangerous surf remain the immediate coastal stakes.
  16. Josephine was forecast over the Laurentian Fan at 988 millibars by eight p.m. Atlantic Daylight Time on Friday. The earlier outlook called for the cyclone to dissipate by midday UTC on October 26. Both points remain forecasts of the storm's future position and survival.

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