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怀尔斯即将离职。MAHA之争仍指向特朗普。

卡利·米恩斯指责与行业有关联的顾问阻挠MAHA。但特朗普本人在电子烟和农药决策中的作用,使这种为总统辩护的说法变得复杂。

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卡利·米恩斯希望唐纳德·特朗普总统从他指责为企业利益服务的顾问手中,重新夺回自己的健康政策议程。这个论点的难处在于,特朗普本人支持过一些米恩斯反对的政策。在围绕调味电子烟的争论中,熟悉决策过程的人士描述的是总统的指示,而不只是顾问瞒着他行事。至于草甘膦,总统签署了相关命令。⁠1

随着苏西·怀尔斯离开白宫,这一矛盾成为“让美国再次健康”(MAHA)运动内部公开决裂的核心。米恩斯曾任卫生与公众服务部长小罗伯特·F·肯尼迪的高级顾问,他指称怀尔斯和其他官员将行业接触和选举筹款置于选民健康之上。怀尔斯和副幕僚长詹姆斯·布莱尔否认了他所述的具体部分。这些指控并非腐败调查结论,她的离职也不能证明是米恩斯扳倒了她。⁠1

在CBS《面对全国》的玛格丽特·布伦南于11月8日周日播出的采访中,米恩斯说,一群前说客迎合电子烟、加工食品、制药和农药行业的利益,理由是“我们需要他们的钱来打中期选举”。他指称,怀尔斯和一小群亲近的顾问“拿了我们竞选时承诺要打击的那些行业的钱”。这些是严重指控,但这番说法并未证实存在非法付款、个人牟利或刑事交易。⁠1

有关详细指控、否认以及内部审议情况的说法,主要来自CBS的一篇报道,该报道也刊载于其各地区网站。这些版本并非独立佐证。CBS另行获得了具名官员的表态,以及熟悉人事和政策决定的人士的说法。⁠1⁠2⁠3

辞职不等于判决

一名美国官员和一名白宫高级顾问告诉CBS,怀尔斯于周四晚提交了辞呈。三名熟悉她离职情况的人士将其与共和党在中期选举中的失利联系起来。这是报道中给出的解释,并非经公开核实的离职原因。米恩斯公开承认希望她下台,但事件的先后顺序仍无法确定他的干预产生了什么影响。⁠1

录制、辞职与公开风波

  1. 11月5日,周四

    米恩斯录制了一期乔·罗根播客访谈。据一名美国官员和一名白宫高级顾问称,当晚怀尔斯提交了辞呈。

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  2. 11月6日,周五

    米恩斯的指控公之于众。此前不久,特朗普录制了一场午间电视采访,随后怀尔斯离职的消息也公开了。

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  3. 11月8日,周日

    CBS播出了布伦南对米恩斯的采访,使外界对这些指控及官员回应的审视进一步扩大。

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  4. 11月9日,周一——预定

    斯蒂芬·米勒预计将接替怀尔斯,出任白宫幕僚长。

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这一区分很重要:周四的私人录制、据报于周四晚提交的辞呈,以及周五公开的指控,是不同的事件。CBS表示,目前尚不清楚米恩斯公开发言是否影响了特朗普加快怀尔斯离职的决定。时间接近并不能证明因果关系。⁠1

米恩斯并非局外批评者。他参与创立MAHA,并在2024年促成特朗普与肯尼迪结盟;之后,他参与制定联邦膳食指南,并推动排除使用食品援助福利购买汽水和糖果。他在10月辞职,同时表达了对两人的尊重。他目前的论点保留了对两人的忠诚,主要将责任归咎于他们身边的人。⁠1

电子烟之争指向特朗普

对这一论点最明确的检验,涉及水果口味的电子烟。米恩斯指称,怀尔斯和布莱尔多次推动卫生与公众服务部寻找批准途径。美国食品药品管理局(FDA)在5月初批准了部分水果口味产品——这是此前的政策行动,并非此次争议发生时的新公告。⁠1

布莱尔对CBS说:“我根本没有特别推动调味电子烟。”他称自己的任务是确保FDA在六个月内批准或驳回尼古丁设备申请,并以此解释法定审查时限。他指责米恩斯故意歪曲这项行政职责,因为米恩斯反对这项政策。加快决定与施压以促成特定结果并非一回事;这场争议部分取决于当时寻求的究竟是哪一种。⁠1

两名熟悉决策过程的人士告诉CBS,特朗普曾指示布莱尔敦促时任FDA局长马蒂·马卡里加快回应尼古丁行业的申请。他们还说,特朗普希望让调味电子烟更广泛地上市。这一说法并不能判定每次干预都不当,但将总统置于推动这项政策的过程中。在2024年竞选期间,特朗普承诺“拯救”电子烟,将其说成吸烟的替代品,并获得电子烟公司的支持,以及店主和爱好者的支持。⁠1

马卡里在5月因这场冲突而受到辞职压力,他对相关压力给出了截然不同的说法:“大型烟草公司利用他们与政府和卫生与公众服务部官员的关系,反复向我施压,要求我批准吸引儿童的水果口味电子烟——我不会这么做。”他的表态说明了他的反对立场,但不能证明米恩斯点名的每位官员都曾有相应行为。潜在的政策矛盾确实存在:成年人寻求香烟替代品,与儿童接触到有吸引力的尼古丁产品,是不同的公共卫生问题。⁠1

多名熟悉这场在特朗普佛罗里达州高尔夫球场举行的午餐会的人士向CBS证实,烟草业说客曾就电子烟监管向总统施压。米恩斯称是怀尔斯安排了午餐会;怀尔斯明确否认。会面发生的证据并不能证明是谁组织的。⁠1

其他政策,证据各有局限

米恩斯还将矛头指向白宫政策顾问海蒂·奥弗顿。特朗普在肯尼迪支持下提名她于8月领导FDA。他指称,奥弗顿曾告诉马卡里,除非他批准莫德纳的mRNA流感疫苗mFLUSIVA,否则她无法在其他政策上帮助他。米恩斯说,马卡里认为该疫苗基于科学理由不应获批。奥弗顿的发言人援引两位前FDA局长的支持为她的资历辩护,但没有具体回应所谓的那次谈话。⁠1

有关施压的指控并不能证明疫苗不安全或无效。FDA在8月批准mFLUSIVA用于50岁及以上的成年人,使其成为首款获FDA批准、采用mRNA技术的流感疫苗。CBS报道,临床试验发现它的效果略优于标准流感疫苗。今年早些时候,该机构曾拒绝审议莫德纳的申请,约一周后又改变了决定。肯尼迪在2025年取消22个mRNA疫苗研发项目,进一步表明政府内部对这项技术存在分歧,但不能证明这项批准缺乏科学依据。⁠1

在农药问题上,特朗普于2026年早些时候签署行政命令,要求提高草甘膦产量。这种除草剂用于农达。将其归类为“可能对人类致癌”,描述的是一种致癌危害,并不意味着每次接触都会导致癌症。肯尼迪曾以私人律师身份多年就草甘膦问题起诉孟山都,他在3月告诉国会,自己反对这项命令。他说,命令源自五角大楼,特朗普认为这对国家安全有必要。再一次,作出选择的是总统,而不只是有人绕过了他。⁠1

米恩斯指称,奥弗顿曾与司法部合作撰写一份陈述,敦促最高法院受理孟山都未充分警示责任案。一名白宫高级官员告诉CBS,司法部副部长在最高法院要求下撰写了这份陈述,而奥弗顿在最后阶段所作的修改涉及“语气”。这一回应承认她有参与,同时质疑其重要性。6月,最高法院在警示责任主张上支持孟山都;政府此前主张,联邦标准取代了州层面的责任诉求。米恩斯还指称,在EPA早先的一次审查中存在代笔研究和贿赂行为,但这些说法在此仍未获证实。⁠1

食品政策还涉及另一项尚无定论的说法:米恩斯称,行业游说阻碍了联邦层面对超加工食品的定义工作,因为企业担心消费者会获得更多透明信息。他辞职当天,食品公司股价上涨,但这种巧合不能证明投资者的动机。他还要求保存与其指控有关的记录——这是寻求证据的一步,本身并非证据。⁠1⁠24

据Axios报道,司法部长托德·布兰奇驳斥了米恩斯的指控。这种驳斥既没有逐项反驳各项说法,也不能证实具体指控的真伪。⁠4

米恩斯称赞米勒愿意与特朗普和肯尼迪一起推动结构性改革。然而,目前并未确认电子烟、疫苗或农药方面的决定有任何逆转。EPA对草甘膦的持续审查预计将于2027年初结束。怀尔斯的继任者将改变谁掌控白宫的接触渠道和协调工作,但这本身不会改变政策。真正的检验在于,米勒上任后是否带来有记录可查的决定和可核实的答复,而不是仅仅换来一位米恩斯更信任的把关人。⁠1

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  1. Susie Wiles is leaving the White House amid a public fight over industry influence.
  2. The fight reaches decisions about flavored vapes, food ingredients, pesticides and vaccines. Former adviser Calley Means says officials put industry money ahead of health promises, while several officials dispute his account. The dispute turns on who drove those decisions, and what replacing Wiles will actually change.
  3. Wiles submitted her resignation Thursday night, a U.S. official and a senior White House adviser say. Three people familiar with her departure link it to Republican midterm defeats. Means says he wanted her removed.
  4. Means helped found Make America Healthy Again, or MAHA, and helped bring Trump and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. together in 2024. He then became a top Kennedy aide, working on dietary guidelines and restrictions on soda and candy purchases with food-assistance benefits.
  5. He resigned in October while expressing respect for Trump and Kennedy. His accusations target the advisers around them. He alleges former lobbyists served industries the campaign promised to confront, using the need for midterm-election money as their justification.
  6. Means accuses Wiles and a close group of advisers of taking money from industries they had promised to challenge. Wiles denies arranging a tobacco-industry meeting with Trump. Deputy chief of staff James Blair denies specifically promoting flavored vaping.
  7. Means's allegations became public Friday after he recorded a podcast interview Thursday. Wiles's departure also became public Friday, after Trump recorded a television interview around midday. The timing has drawn attention because Means openly says removing her was his intention.
  8. Thursday's recording and Thursday night's reported resignation came before Friday's public allegations. Means expanded his accusations in an interview aired Sunday, November 8. Whether his public remarks accelerated Wiles's departure is still unclear.
  9. The sharpest policy clash concerns fruit-flavored vapes. Means alleges Wiles and Blair repeatedly pushed the Department of Health and Human Services to find a route to approval. The Food and Drug Administration approved some fruit-flavored e-cigarettes in early May.
  10. Blair says his assignment was to make the FDA approve or deny nicotine-device applications within six months. That's his explanation of the legal requirement. He accuses Means of deliberately misrepresenting his role because Means opposes the policy.
  11. Two people familiar with the process say Trump directed Blair to press then-FDA Commissioner Marty Makary for faster nicotine-application decisions. They also say Trump wanted flavored vapes more widely available. That places the president inside the policy push Means blames on advisers.
  12. Trump had promised to “save” vaping during the 2024 campaign. He presented it as an alternative to smoking and won support from e-cigarette companies, shop owners and vaping enthusiasts. Adults seeking alternatives to cigarettes and children's exposure to appealing nicotine products sit on opposite sides of this dispute.
  13. Makary says tobacco interests used their administration connections to pressure him, and he refused. He was pressed to resign in May amid the vaping conflict. His account describes pressure he opposed, while Blair disputes Means's description of Blair's own role.
  14. Tobacco lobbyists also met Trump over lunch at his Florida golf course and pressed him about e-cigarette regulation. Multiple people familiar with that meeting describe it. Means says Wiles arranged it, and Wiles specifically denies doing so.
  15. Means calls White House policy aide Heidi Overton the biggest obstacle to MAHA he encountered in government. Trump nominated her to lead the FDA in August, and Kennedy endorsed her. Means alleges she followed Wiles's instructions.
  16. His most specific accusation concerns Moderna's mRNA flu vaccine, mFLUSIVA. He alleges Overton told Makary she couldn't help him on other policies unless he approved it. Means says Makary believed it shouldn't win approval on scientific grounds.
  17. The FDA approved mFLUSIVA in August for adults 50 and older. It became the first FDA-approved flu vaccine using mRNA technology. Clinical trials found it slightly more effective than the standard flu shot. Means's pressure allegation doesn't show the vaccine is unsafe.
  18. Earlier in the year, the FDA said it wouldn't consider Moderna's application, then reversed course about a week later. Kennedy had canceled 22 mRNA vaccine-development projects in 2025. Those decisions show the administration's divided approach to the technology.
  19. Means also alleges Overton drove a more permissive vaping strategy after Makary left, and he questions her integrity. Her spokesman defended her qualifications by pointing to support from two former FDA commissioners, without addressing the alleged vaccine conversation.
  20. Trump signed an executive order earlier in 2026 to increase production of glyphosate, the herbicide used in Roundup. It has been classified as probably carcinogenic to humans. That describes a cancer hazard, without saying every exposure causes cancer.
  21. Kennedy spent years challenging Monsanto over glyphosate as a private attorney. But he said the agricultural system depended heavily on these chemicals. In congressional testimony in March, he said he'd objected to the order, which he described as coming from the Pentagon and justified by Trump on national-security grounds.
  22. Means alleges Overton worked with the Justice Department on a brief urging the Supreme Court to take Monsanto's case. A senior White House official says the solicitor general wrote it at the Court's request, with Overton making final changes to “tone.”
  23. In June, the Supreme Court sided with Monsanto over failure-to-warn liability for alleged cancer risks from Roundup. The administration argued federal standards overrode state-level liability claims, aligning it with Monsanto, now part of Bayer. Means also alleges an earlier EPA review was discarded over ghostwritten research and bribery. Those accusations remain unproven.
  24. Means says work on a federal definition of ultra-processed food stalled under industry lobbying. He alleges companies opposed a definition because clearer information would push more consumers away from their products. Food-company shares rose on the day he resigned.
  25. That market movement alone doesn't explain investors' motives. Means has also asked for records connected with his allegations to be preserved. He continues to defend Trump's commitment to children's health, while accusing advisers of blocking information and treating the president “like a baby.”
  26. Trump's direction on vaping and his glyphosate order complicate that defense. In those cases, the president himself backed policies Means opposes. The practical question for families is who shapes regulatory decisions and the information they receive about what they buy.
  27. Attorney General Todd Blanche has dismissed Means's allegations and reportedly ruled out a Justice Department investigation. Stephen Miller is scheduled to replace Wiles as chief of staff Monday, November 9. Means praises Miller as willing to pursue structural changes with Trump and Kennedy.
  28. Miller's arrival changes who controls White House access and coordination. Whether that produces policy changes is still unresolved. No reversal of the vaping, vaccine or pesticide decisions has been announced. The EPA's ongoing glyphosate review is expected to finish in early 2027.

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